Hi everyone,
First, thanks for joining the Performancing Partners Beta Group, you're help and feedback is hugely appreciated, and as promised, you are the first to receive updates and news re the coming launch of what we know will be a great blog advertising network.
#### Ads Now Available to View / Test
After much messing around with tricky Javacript, beastly CSS and narky XHTML, we've finally got something to show you from the *front end* of the system. Please follow the link below to view the new ad format and do reply to this mail, or see the coming (day or two) blog post and give us your feedback!
http://performancing.com/p/test.php
The ads themselves are "house ads" we've made just to demo the system, but the next steps will be something like this:
* Put the house ads on Performancing.com to get wider feedback
* Ask Beta Group members to place *one* of the house ads on their own sites if possible to help us with database tuning.
* Initiate an invite snd referal system so that Beta Group members can invite others into the testing cycle and (eventually) earn money from their "downstream" of invited people.
We dont plan too rigidly, so that could change, but that's a rough idea of what to expect.
### Feedback Feedback Feedback!
Though you, our Beta Group are of course ahead with this and any other news, it is not a secret, and if you wish to talk about what we're doing you are most welcome.
First port of call should be to reply to me (this is my real email address, but do give me a day or 2 to answer) and let me know of any bugs, problems or general thoughts you have. Be aware that I **may post** anything you say to me unless asked spcecifically not to of course.
So, please tell me what you think and help us do the last bit of debugging on the front end with the ads.
### Mac Browsers have not Been Tested Yet
One note on testing. At the time of writing we have not got to testing on Safari and other browsers.
### Thanks!
Thanks again, I hope you like the new format and that you enjoy being part of the Performancing Partners Beta Group.
--
Nick Wilson
nick@performancing.com
Some comments and questions
Looks nice!
One thing I've noticed (using firefox 1.5.0.4, although IE6 behaves the same), once you mouse over an ad, and then the ad pops up, if you move your mouse too slowly, the ad pops back down. This might be a source of frustration for people.
I'll try Safari and firefox Mac tonight and let you guys know how it goes.
There is one thing I'm not clear on, is where the content of the ads is going to come from? Would that eventually come from your server, and not be hardcoded like it is on your example (http://performancing.com/p/test.php)?
Safari looks ok
It works quite well on Safari on OS X 10.4.7.
The only (minor) issue is that when you hit the back button, the hover text reappears, and only disappears after you've moved your mouse over the window (which is not something Firefox, IE6 or 7 do.
No trouble at all on Firefox 1.5.0.4 on the same OS
Hi psq, The timing is on
Hi psq,
The timing is on purpose, and may indeed need tuning, though i'll try to gather more feedback before adjusting it. My thought on that presently is that if the ad stays up for too long it becomes a nuicense, too little and it becomes unusable. The ideal would be to strike a balance between the two.
The ads on the test page are not hard coded. They run from a JS insert (view source of page) as anybody elses would, but the source code listed on the page does have them hard coded, so that people can easily cut and paste it into a page to try the technology out themselves.
At some point we'll just make that source downloadable, or maybe even more generic and under version control for the community, but for now that was just the quickest and easiest way to do it.
Not convinced it is a timing issue
At least I think. Nick, what I'm doing is moving slowly the mouse and as soon as I'm 1 or 2 pixels out, the popup disappears. If I move the mouse at somewhat faster, then it is fine.
The key is to move sloooooowly.
And one more thought: are you going to be able to control whether it pops to the left or the right (at least for that layout) so you can put it on a left sidebar?
timing (cont)
What I think is happening is that there is an empty rectangle between the ad itself and the popup, (what looks like 20 pixels), so if the mouseover is sampled in that zone, the popup disappears. If you cross these 20 pixels quickly enough, it does not pop down.
Hope I'm making sense!
It automatically detects if
It automatically detects if the hover should be shown to the right or left. Which browser is making it close right away for you psg?
All the ones I've tried,
All the ones I've tried, firefox, IE, safari. If I go fast enough it works fine though.
It is timing. Trust me,
It is timing.
Trust me, it's not anything else. I should know, i tuned that bit of it.
sleepTimeout = window.setTimeout('setVisible(lastOpened, false)', 500);That gives you half a second, which may indeed be too short, but i really want to get more feedback before adjusting it any further...
I see how you can say it is
I see how you can say it is timing ;)
Basically, there is 20 pixels gap between the ad itself and the popup aread, and if I take too long to cross (.5s), then it pops down.
What I think should happen is that there should not be a gap where this could happen.
If I have have time tomorrow, I'll see if I can tweak the code to illustrate my point. (too late now)
That would be great, i'll
That would be great, i'll look forward to seeing it psq..
thanks
The ads look clean and the
The ads look clean and the usability with the 'pop-up' is great. At the moment I have not much time to look into it too deep but next week I am going to try it.
What I see already is that I will have to get some hints how to integrate the ads on my site (sankt-georg.info) to show outside the 'typical' content wrap design. That should be no big deal but will need some CSS tweaking. I want the ads to show on the left side. That would be left of div-wrap and y-oriented left of div-content. I will also have to push div-wrap a little bit to the right. Some work to do. Hints welcome!
BTW: Congratulations!
You can show the ads on the
You can show the ads on the left of the screen and the hovers will automatically show to the right of the images Markus, it should be just a case of ensuring you have the space to fit them in but you will be able to tune how many you will allow it to show.
Sounds good. I will test it
Sounds good. I will test it in a quiet minute and surprise my visitors with some funny effects :-) So I just have to make sure that the free space to the left is something like 130 pixels?
Any comments yet about how to integrate my own ads?
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