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		<title>By: Raptor2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raptor2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with HART.  It would be good to have a screen shot of the site before any changes were made.  After reading through all the comments I was able to figure out what had been changed, but in the future if there are more extensive changes it would be good to see a &quot;before&quot; shot.

I found this article (and the comments) to be very useful.  I look forward to reading about future reboots.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with HART.  It would be good to have a screen shot of the site before any changes were made.  After reading through all the comments I was able to figure out what had been changed, but in the future if there are more extensive changes it would be good to see a &#8220;before&#8221; shot.</p>
<p>I found this article (and the comments) to be very useful.  I look forward to reading about future reboots.</p>
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		<title>By: throughball</title>
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		<dc:creator>throughball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hart: The only things I&#039;ve done so far is change the color green to a slightly darker color green and remove a horizontal 2-ad adsense unit from the top.

Everything else is as it was when it was reviewed. Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hart: The only things I&#8217;ve done so far is change the color green to a slightly darker color green and remove a horizontal 2-ad adsense unit from the top.</p>
<p>Everything else is as it was when it was reviewed. Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: saloschin</title>
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		<dc:creator>saloschin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating stuff. My advice, for next season, would be to try and build on your Fantasy Footie (at the premier league site- what&#039;s your score now, btw?) and offer prizes, promos, publish results, have weekly winners, and so on- if possible even get some visual software done for this, like the BBC uses in their &quot;squad selector&quot;. Then, let as many footie fans know about this as you can- there an awful lot of them! I would say the big forums are a pretty good bet and you can hire people to help spread the word. I&#039;d also introduce a little more bias and bite into the content, through opinion. Like Ahmed&#039;s last post on MU not winning the league- of course he&#039;s living on the moon and we&#039;ll beat those overpaid Chelsea t..s- but he&#039;s &quot;creating community&quot; and not trying to be something for everyone, which is a pretty impossible task. As far as an affiliate is concerned, kitbag is pretty good for all the latest shirts, etc &amp; you can also get stuff like signed photos from ebay and resell them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating stuff. My advice, for next season, would be to try and build on your Fantasy Footie (at the premier league site- what&#8217;s your score now, btw?) and offer prizes, promos, publish results, have weekly winners, and so on- if possible even get some visual software done for this, like the BBC uses in their &#8220;squad selector&#8221;. Then, let as many footie fans know about this as you can- there an awful lot of them! I would say the big forums are a pretty good bet and you can hire people to help spread the word. I&#8217;d also introduce a little more bias and bite into the content, through opinion. Like Ahmed&#8217;s last post on MU not winning the league- of course he&#8217;s living on the moon and we&#8217;ll beat those overpaid Chelsea t..s- but he&#8217;s &#8220;creating community&#8221; and not trying to be something for everyone, which is a pretty impossible task. As far as an affiliate is concerned, kitbag is pretty good for all the latest shirts, etc &#038; you can also get stuff like signed photos from ebay and resell them.</p>
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		<title>By: 1-800-HART</title>
		<link>http://performancing.com/blog_reboot_session_1__throughball_com/comment-page-1/#comment-20590</link>
		<dc:creator>1-800-HART</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Luck to Throughball.com and its reboot!

I sure wish you guys took some still pictures of BEFORE .. because it&#039;s really hard to put your advice into practical learning experiences without it. Right now, it seems that some changes are already made? So .. if you do - can you put them up? 

(sorry, this wasnt&#039; one feed in my bloglines, so I have never visited the blog before)

HART</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Luck to Throughball.com and its reboot!</p>
<p>I sure wish you guys took some still pictures of BEFORE .. because it&#8217;s really hard to put your advice into practical learning experiences without it. Right now, it seems that some changes are already made? So .. if you do &#8211; can you put them up? </p>
<p>(sorry, this wasnt&#8217; one feed in my bloglines, so I have never visited the blog before)</p>
<p>HART</p>
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		<title>By: throughball</title>
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		<dc:creator>throughball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Competing with the big media isn&#039;t a smart idea - when you&#039;re starting out (TB&#039;s an year old) you want to focus on dominating a narrow niche first and then expanding into a broader, overarching niche if you wish to later on...

From what I gather, you&#039;re US-based, so catering to US-based football fans (or should I say soccer?) would be an ideal first step. There are some US bloggers writing about football but they try to go after the same UK audience as everyone else.&lt;/strong&gt;

The stated goal of the blog, as referenced on the &quot;About&quot; page is to focus on the Minnesota Thunder (a team in my state that is one level below the highest level of pro soccer in America), the U.S. National Team, and the English Premiership. 

In short, I&#039;ve picked these because they are what I know. Unfortunately, due to extraordinary geography and varying weather, the domestic leagues are not in operation during the late fall, winter, or early spring (thus the national team and Premiership coverage).

Moreover, based on interactions with my audience, I believe that my readers count on me to find the most interesting stories in between all the static. You&#039;re very right; keeping up with &lt;i&gt;all&lt;/i&gt; of the news is difficult, and I (perhaps naively) believe that the audience appreciates my attempt to act as a filter.

&lt;strong&gt;I put Throughball.com through the blink test and the first thing I noticed was that the post headlines are downplayed because of the AdSense blocks above them and the subscription info in the center of the screen. I&#039;m not saying that you should remove those two items - especially not the RSS subs info - but look at ways to make the post a more prominent part of the page.

One way to do this would be to widen the content area and reduce the space given to the two sidebars. Another way to do this would be to shift the content column to the center and take the first sidebar to the left. If you do that you&#039;ll probably have to change the order of what you&#039;re showing in the sidebars as well.

The 3 column approach isn&#039;t bad, but to make it work you should give as much breathing space to your post / content area as possible.&lt;/strong&gt;

I acted on what I believe to be the best suggestions; namely, removing the top adsense block and changing the color green to a darker shade.

I need to give the others some thought.

&lt;strong&gt;Timeless content - this is a bit hard to manage with football sites, but here are a few ideas... &lt;/strong&gt;

I think you are spot on. I need to do a better job focusing on creating original, timeless content. I&#039;ve tried to do this in a few cases (typically when I couldn&#039;t find a particular resource elsewhere on the web and I decided to just create that resource myself) but I could certainly do it more.

&lt;strong&gt;add a help page for the social bookmarking and RSS subscription options to help explain to readers what they are and how to use them.&lt;/strong&gt;

Man, I&#039;ve had that unfinished post in queue for some time now. Hopefully this will be a good motivator.

&lt;strong&gt;The fact is - football is not as easy to monetize as gadgets. Here are a few options for you to consider...&lt;/strong&gt;

Adsense has positively sucked for me. TLA has been pretty good. Will look into TLB

&lt;strong&gt;Marketing&lt;/strong&gt;

For the most part, I do everything you suggest in this section.

All in all, I&#039;m pleased by this review. I think there are a number of things that I can take away immediately (as mentioned, I&#039;ve already put in place two of the suggestions).

I appreciate the time that Ahmed took to do the write-up and the great comments that followed. I&#039;m looking forward to the next reboot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Competing with the big media isn&#8217;t a smart idea &#8211; when you&#8217;re starting out (TB&#8217;s an year old) you want to focus on dominating a narrow niche first and then expanding into a broader, overarching niche if you wish to later on&#8230;</p>
<p>From what I gather, you&#8217;re US-based, so catering to US-based football fans (or should I say soccer?) would be an ideal first step. There are some US bloggers writing about football but they try to go after the same UK audience as everyone else.</strong></p>
<p>The stated goal of the blog, as referenced on the &#8220;About&#8221; page is to focus on the Minnesota Thunder (a team in my state that is one level below the highest level of pro soccer in America), the U.S. National Team, and the English Premiership. </p>
<p>In short, I&#8217;ve picked these because they are what I know. Unfortunately, due to extraordinary geography and varying weather, the domestic leagues are not in operation during the late fall, winter, or early spring (thus the national team and Premiership coverage).</p>
<p>Moreover, based on interactions with my audience, I believe that my readers count on me to find the most interesting stories in between all the static. You&#8217;re very right; keeping up with <i>all</i> of the news is difficult, and I (perhaps naively) believe that the audience appreciates my attempt to act as a filter.</p>
<p><strong>I put Throughball.com through the blink test and the first thing I noticed was that the post headlines are downplayed because of the AdSense blocks above them and the subscription info in the center of the screen. I&#8217;m not saying that you should remove those two items &#8211; especially not the RSS subs info &#8211; but look at ways to make the post a more prominent part of the page.</p>
<p>One way to do this would be to widen the content area and reduce the space given to the two sidebars. Another way to do this would be to shift the content column to the center and take the first sidebar to the left. If you do that you&#8217;ll probably have to change the order of what you&#8217;re showing in the sidebars as well.</p>
<p>The 3 column approach isn&#8217;t bad, but to make it work you should give as much breathing space to your post / content area as possible.</strong></p>
<p>I acted on what I believe to be the best suggestions; namely, removing the top adsense block and changing the color green to a darker shade.</p>
<p>I need to give the others some thought.</p>
<p><strong>Timeless content &#8211; this is a bit hard to manage with football sites, but here are a few ideas&#8230; </strong></p>
<p>I think you are spot on. I need to do a better job focusing on creating original, timeless content. I&#8217;ve tried to do this in a few cases (typically when I couldn&#8217;t find a particular resource elsewhere on the web and I decided to just create that resource myself) but I could certainly do it more.</p>
<p><strong>add a help page for the social bookmarking and RSS subscription options to help explain to readers what they are and how to use them.</strong></p>
<p>Man, I&#8217;ve had that unfinished post in queue for some time now. Hopefully this will be a good motivator.</p>
<p><strong>The fact is &#8211; football is not as easy to monetize as gadgets. Here are a few options for you to consider&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Adsense has positively sucked for me. TLA has been pretty good. Will look into TLB</p>
<p><strong>Marketing</strong></p>
<p>For the most part, I do everything you suggest in this section.</p>
<p>All in all, I&#8217;m pleased by this review. I think there are a number of things that I can take away immediately (as mentioned, I&#8217;ve already put in place two of the suggestions).</p>
<p>I appreciate the time that Ahmed took to do the write-up and the great comments that followed. I&#8217;m looking forward to the next reboot!</p>
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		<title>By: smperris</title>
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		<dc:creator>smperris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a bunch of small tips with big potential.  Very useful stuff.  I have no illusions that my blog will ever be re-booted (especially since I&#039;m not looking to be pro - just better) but this series is going to give me a whole heap of information that I can actually use.

The best part is that you can see the suggestions in the context of an actual blog and it makes it much easier to apply if there are similarities between the re-booted blog and your own (whether it be content, design, marketing strategies etc).

Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a bunch of small tips with big potential.  Very useful stuff.  I have no illusions that my blog will ever be re-booted (especially since I&#8217;m not looking to be pro &#8211; just better) but this series is going to give me a whole heap of information that I can actually use.</p>
<p>The best part is that you can see the suggestions in the context of an actual blog and it makes it much easier to apply if there are similarities between the re-booted blog and your own (whether it be content, design, marketing strategies etc).</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Green</title>
		<link>http://performancing.com/blog_reboot_session_1__throughball_com/comment-page-1/#comment-20587</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note to say that as a bystander watching this happen, it was very useful.  I&#039;ve already made two changes to my own blog(s) and entered a few to-do&#039;s in future timelines. This is a useful process for those of us new to the blogging scene.  This is much more useful than some theoretical exercise or article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note to say that as a bystander watching this happen, it was very useful.  I&#8217;ve already made two changes to my own blog(s) and entered a few to-do&#8217;s in future timelines. This is a useful process for those of us new to the blogging scene.  This is much more useful than some theoretical exercise or article.</p>
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		<title>By: David Krug</title>
		<link>http://performancing.com/blog_reboot_session_1__throughball_com/comment-page-1/#comment-20586</link>
		<dc:creator>David Krug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off this rocks. Not only have you improved the readers eyeballs you&#039;ve encouraged someone to make the content more interesting as well. Design can be a huge help. 

Here&#039;s the one thing I&#039;d recommend as far as monetizing. CJ.com has some great affiliate programs. Develop a mini store and drive some of your readership deeper into the store with related products. 

Also talk about products occassionaly if you are looking to make it more of a professional blogging site income wise. 

Overall a great site , and some quality feedback thanks guys. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off this rocks. Not only have you improved the readers eyeballs you&#8217;ve encouraged someone to make the content more interesting as well. Design can be a huge help. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the one thing I&#8217;d recommend as far as monetizing. CJ.com has some great affiliate programs. Develop a mini store and drive some of your readership deeper into the store with related products. </p>
<p>Also talk about products occassionaly if you are looking to make it more of a professional blogging site income wise. </p>
<p>Overall a great site , and some quality feedback thanks guys. </p>
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		<title>By: throughball</title>
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		<dc:creator>throughball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that I&#039;m unable to put this off until later! 

I&#039;ve implemented the suggestions from Liz and Raj about using a darker green. You&#039;re right, it&#039;s definitely easier to read now.

Moreover, I&#039;ve removed the adsense on the top; frankly, I never liked it all that much and it&#039;s not as though it was producing millions of dollars...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that I&#8217;m unable to put this off until later! </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve implemented the suggestions from Liz and Raj about using a darker green. You&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s definitely easier to read now.</p>
<p>Moreover, I&#8217;ve removed the adsense on the top; frankly, I never liked it all that much and it&#8217;s not as though it was producing millions of dollars&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Raj Dash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raj Dash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, I&#039;ll throw in some more detailed comments tonight or tomorrow, but here are a couple of quick suggestions:

(1) The green hyperlinks are almost impossible for my older eyes to read. I doubt I would have liked them when i was younger. But I like your colour scheme in general, though more black would help the contrast, as Liz said.

(2) Content-wise, I suggest you throw in some more flagship content. I can&#039;t recall if it was Zidane, but some young player is being touted as the next hot footballer/ soccer player, and a bio of him would help. Don&#039;t forget bios of past greats. Few football fans ever grow tired of reading about, for example, the great Pele. Maybe do up two lists:

(a) the 10 greatest retired footballers
(b) 10 up and coming current players

If you have these, forgive me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, I&#8217;ll throw in some more detailed comments tonight or tomorrow, but here are a couple of quick suggestions:</p>
<p>(1) The green hyperlinks are almost impossible for my older eyes to read. I doubt I would have liked them when i was younger. But I like your colour scheme in general, though more black would help the contrast, as Liz said.</p>
<p>(2) Content-wise, I suggest you throw in some more flagship content. I can&#8217;t recall if it was Zidane, but some young player is being touted as the next hot footballer/ soccer player, and a bio of him would help. Don&#8217;t forget bios of past greats. Few football fans ever grow tired of reading about, for example, the great Pele. Maybe do up two lists:</p>
<p>(a) the 10 greatest retired footballers<br />
(b) 10 up and coming current players</p>
<p>If you have these, forgive me.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Strauss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Strauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was helpful to have that word, Ahmed. I really appreciate your time for that. 

Josh, feel free to get in touch if something doesn&#039;t make sense. 

Teamwork is a good thing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was helpful to have that word, Ahmed. I really appreciate your time for that. </p>
<p>Josh, feel free to get in touch if something doesn&#8217;t make sense. </p>
<p>Teamwork is a good thing. </p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed Bilal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahmed Bilal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Liz, and it was good to talk to you as well 

Looking forward to your feedback Josh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Liz, and it was good to talk to you as well </p>
<p>Looking forward to your feedback Josh.</p>
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		<title>By: throughball</title>
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		<dc:creator>throughball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahmed: Thanks for the fantastic write-up!

Thanks also to Liz for the design-specific comments

I&#039;m not able to digest all of this right now but will give it some time this evening so that we can have a fruitful discussion.

Josh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahmed: Thanks for the fantastic write-up!</p>
<p>Thanks also to Liz for the design-specific comments</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not able to digest all of this right now but will give it some time this evening so that we can have a fruitful discussion.</p>
<p>Josh</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Strauss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Strauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 08:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ahmed for the invite to respond to the design. There is so much right about what I see. Many of the usual problems I find just aren&#039;t here. But I see what you see also.

My solution to the Adsense would different. I would move them below the post officially to sit immediatly--5px--under the Sociable icons. and and mark them off with a border above and below. This would offer a clean, clear finish to the end of a post. Then I would add about 15px above the title of the next post. 

If Josh, wants a set of ads at the top -- not my personal perference, but a monetization choice -- I would use the treatment I just described and the extra space above the post title to make the ads  not part of the first post.

My greatest concern is the color of the green text. The color chosen doesn&#039;t have enough black in it. I have the same problem with green on my own blog and will be changing it. The color now is 83B738. One with a little more black would be 6F9C30 even more would be 62892A. It&#039;s worth a try to see what the difference in readability is.

Speaking of readability, the overall type size very small. I would recommend making at least 2px larger. If the type goes larger the main content area can go about 5px wide. However, care needs to be take that the line length doesn&#039;t get too wide for the eye to return to the next line to read. 

I wonder why that first post under the Adsense looks different -- smaller title, no sociable icons . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ahmed for the invite to respond to the design. There is so much right about what I see. Many of the usual problems I find just aren&#8217;t here. But I see what you see also.</p>
<p>My solution to the Adsense would different. I would move them below the post officially to sit immediatly&#8211;5px&#8211;under the Sociable icons. and and mark them off with a border above and below. This would offer a clean, clear finish to the end of a post. Then I would add about 15px above the title of the next post. </p>
<p>If Josh, wants a set of ads at the top &#8212; not my personal perference, but a monetization choice &#8212; I would use the treatment I just described and the extra space above the post title to make the ads  not part of the first post.</p>
<p>My greatest concern is the color of the green text. The color chosen doesn&#8217;t have enough black in it. I have the same problem with green on my own blog and will be changing it. The color now is 83B738. One with a little more black would be 6F9C30 even more would be 62892A. It&#8217;s worth a try to see what the difference in readability is.</p>
<p>Speaking of readability, the overall type size very small. I would recommend making at least 2px larger. If the type goes larger the main content area can go about 5px wide. However, care needs to be take that the line length doesn&#8217;t get too wide for the eye to return to the next line to read. </p>
<p>I wonder why that first post under the Adsense looks different &#8212; smaller title, no sociable icons . . .</p>
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		<title>By: kkhipple</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m actually looking forward to having my blog reviewed. Reading this, I think I have been doing a few things right.  But would love to get a second opinion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually looking forward to having my blog reviewed. Reading this, I think I have been doing a few things right.  But would love to get a second opinion</p>
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